2024-09-09 @ 16:00 UTC - Fedora 41 Blocker Review Meeting

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Hi folks! It’s time for another blocker review meeting. We have 1 proposed blocker and 10 proposed freeze exceptions for Beta.

Here is a handy link which should show you the meeting time in your local time.

The meeting will be on Matrix. Click the link above to join in a web client - you can authenticate with your FAS account - or use a dedicated client of your choosing.

If you have time this weekend, you can take a look at the proposed or accepted blockers before the meeting - the full lists can be found here.

Remember, you can also now vote on bugs outside of review meetings! If you look at the bug list in the blockerbugs app, you’ll see links labeled “Vote!” next to all proposed blockers and freeze exceptions. Those links take you to tickets where you can vote. This page has instructions on how exactly you do it. We usually go through the tickets shortly before the meeting and apply any clear votes, so the meeting will just cover bugs where there wasn’t a clear outcome in the ticket voting yet. THIS MEANS IF YOU VOTE NOW, THE MEETING WILL BE SHORTER!

Especially since we have so many proposed FEs right now, it would really help make the meeting shorter if people can vote on them today.

We’ll be evaluating these bugs to see if they violate any of the Release Criteria and warrant the blocking of a release if they’re not fixed. Information on the release criteria for F40 can be found on the wiki.

For more information about the Blocker and Freeze exception process, check out these links:

And for those of you who are curious how a Blocker Review Meeting works - or how it’s supposed to go and you want to run one - check out the SOP on the wiki.

Have a good day and see you tomorrow!

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#blocker-review:fedoraproject.org: F41-blocker-review

Meeting started by @adamwill:fedora.im at 16:01:20 UTC

Meeting summary

  1. TOPIC:Roll Call (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:01:24)
    1. INFO: Our purpose in this meeting is to review proposed blocker and nice-to-have bugs and decide whether to accept them, and to monitor the progress of fixing existing accepted blocker and nice-to-have bugs. (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:08:50)
  2. TOPIC:Introduction (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:08:50)
    1. LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_41_Final_Release_Criteria (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:09:02)
    2. INFO: We'll be following the process outlined at: (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:09:02)
    3. LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_41_Beta_Release_Criteria (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:09:02)
    4. LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Basic_Release_Criteria (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:09:02)
    5. INFO: The criteria for release blocking bugs can be found at: (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:09:02)
    6. LINK: http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/current (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:09:02)
    7. INFO: The bugs up for review today are available at: (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:09:02)
    8. LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_Blocker_Bug_Meeting (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:09:02)
    9. INFO: for Beta, we have: (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:09:49)
    10. INFO: 8 Accepted Freeze Exceptions (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:10:01)
    11. INFO: 4 Proposed Freeze Exceptions (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:10:01)
    12. INFO: 1 Accepted Previous Release Blockers (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:10:01)
    13. INFO: 3 Accepted Blockers (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:10:01)
    14. INFO: 1 Proposed Blockers (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:10:01)
    15. INFO: František Zatloukal will secretarialize (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:11:49)
  3. TOPIC:Proposed Beta blockers (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:11:57)
  4. TOPIC:(2309697) dnf plugins not handled in the ugprade process (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:12:39)
    1. LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2309697 (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:12:39)
    2. LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/1640 (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:12:39)
    3. INFO: Ticket vote: BetaBlocker (+3,0,-2) (+nixuser, +tablepc, +nielsenb, -lruzicka, -sgallagh) (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:12:39)
    4. INFO: Proposed Blocker, dnf5, ASSIGNED (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:12:39)
    5. AGREED: 2309697 - RejectedBlocker (Beta) - we agreed that the bug here is genuine and there ought to be a better effort made to achieve as close as possible as a 1:1 replacement of plugins on upgrade, but it does not violate the intent of the criterion. a sidebar discussion on the "plus any packages the user previously had" wording in the criterion footnote clarified that it is a leftover from the Edition work whose intent is not to make a bug like this a blocker, see meeting log for more details (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:28:26)
  5. TOPIC:Proposed Beta freeze exceptions (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:29:04)
    1. INFO: Proposed Freeze Exceptions, python-dipy, ON_QA (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:29:43)
  6. TOPIC:(2280596) python-dipy fails to build with Python 3.13: TypeError: cannot remove variables from FrameLocalsProxy (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:29:43)
    1. LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2280596 (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:29:43)
    2. LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/1644 (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:29:43)
    3. AGREED: 2280596 - AcceptedFreezeException (Beta) - this is accepted as a fails-to-install bug; we generally grant these FEs in order to avoid problems for folks who have them installed when upgrading before the post-freeze stable push (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:39:03)
    4. LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2280555 (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:39:14)
    5. INFO: Ticket vote: BetaFreezeException (+1,0,-0) (+nielsenb) (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:39:14)
    6. INFO: Proposed Freeze Exceptions, python-libusb1, MODIFIED (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:39:14)
    7. LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/1642 (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:39:14)
  7. TOPIC:(2280555) python-libusb1 fails to build with Python 3.13: AssertionError": self.assertEqual(local_dict.get(ENUM_NAME), ENUM_VALUE) (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:39:14)
    1. AGREED: 2280555 - AcceptedFreezeException (Beta) - also accepted as a fails-to-install issue, which we typically accept to ease upgrade issues (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:42:26)
    2. INFO: Proposed Freeze Exceptions, python-lmdb, POST (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:42:35)
  8. TOPIC:(2259530) python-lmdb fails to build with Python 3.13: implicit declaration of function ‘PyObject_AsReadBuffer’ (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:42:35)
    1. LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2259530 (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:42:35)
    2. LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/1643 (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:42:35)
    3. INFO: Ticket vote: BetaFreezeException (+1,0,-0) (+nielsenb) (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:42:35)
    4. AGREED: 2259530 - AcceptedFreezeException (Beta) - once again, accepted as a fails-to-install issue, which we typically accept to avoid upgrade issues (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:45:41)
    5. LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2309685 (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:46:02)
    6. INFO: Proposed Freeze Exceptions, uv, VERIFIED (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:46:02)
    7. LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/1648 (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:46:02)
  9. TOPIC:(2309685) uv-0.4.4 is available (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:46:02)
    1. INFO: Ticket vote: BetaFreezeException (+0,0,-1) (-nielsenb) (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:46:02)
    2. AGREED: 2309685 - AcceptedFreezeException (Beta) - this is accepted as it's a feature of a spin that's expected to be used live (without updates) and the risk to anything else is small (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:55:24)
  10. TOPIC:Accepted Beta blockers (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:55:55)
    1. INFO: reminder: we're checking status, not re-voting, unless we have a specific reason to re-vote (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:56:04)
    2. LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/1605 (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:56:13)
  11. TOPIC:(2282171) gsk: vulkan renderer causes gtk4 apps to crash on resize operations on Raspberry Pi 4 and 400 (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:56:13)
    1. LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2282171 (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:56:13)
    2. INFO: Accepted Blocker, bcm283x-firmware, ASSIGNED (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:56:13)
    3. INFO: there is solid progress on this now, the issues at all levels are better understood, and peter is working on a fix for the incorrect memory assignment that should avoid the bug happening in normal use (@adamwill:fedora.im, 17:00:08)
    4. LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/1607 (@adamwill:fedora.im, 17:00:18)
  12. TOPIC:(2283978) Raspberry Pi 4 automatically suspends when idle, claims to support suspend, but can't be woken up (@adamwill:fedora.im, 17:00:18)
    1. LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2283978 (@adamwill:fedora.im, 17:00:18)
    2. INFO: Accepted Blocker, kernel, ASSIGNED (@adamwill:fedora.im, 17:00:18)
    3. INFO: it's seeming increasingly like we will just have to document this issue, but we'll leave the bug open until go/no-go in case any bright ideas appear (@adamwill:fedora.im, 17:02:10)
    4. INFO: Accepted Blocker, mesa, ON_QA (@adamwill:fedora.im, 17:02:24)
  13. TOPIC:(2270430) Raspberry Pi 4: KDE initial setup is broken without nomodeset, KDE desktop won't load with nomodeset (@adamwill:fedora.im, 17:02:24)
    1. LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2270430 (@adamwill:fedora.im, 17:02:24)
    2. LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/1621 (@adamwill:fedora.im, 17:02:24)
    3. INFO: a fix for this is in the works, but the initial take was not sufficient. František Zatloukal will update the bug with details (@adamwill:fedora.im, 17:04:06)
  14. TOPIC:Open floo (@adamwill:fedora.im, 17:06:28)
  15. TOPIC:Open floor (@adamwill:fedora.im, 17:06:33)
    1. INFO: Beta Go/No-Go is this Thursday (if we have a candidate by then) at 1700 UTC (@adamwill:fedora.im, 17:10:04)


Meeting ended at 17:11:16 UTC

Action items

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  2. @nielsenb:fedora.im (29)
  3. @frantisekz:fedora.im (25)
  4. @sgallagh:fedora.im (24)
  5. @lruzicka:matrix.org (16)
  6. @derekenz:fedora.im (14)
  7. @thebeanogamer:fedora.im (11)
  8. @zodbot:fedora.im (9)
  9. @farribeiro:matrix.org (9)
  10. @kparal:matrix.org (8)
  11. @nhanlon:beeper.com (5)
  12. @amoloney:fedora.im (4)
  13. @meetbot:fedora.im (2)
  14. @geraldosimiao:matrix.org (1)
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